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Gaynor: No. I plotz because I'm very energetic person I have a very outgoing .. you didn't notice?
Carson: You have a high energy level
Gaynor: Yes, I do. I wear a lot of people out. Some people think I'm a big pain in the neck because I'm always so up. Like a friend of mine said, just a little while ago, "Hey, cheer down, Mitzi."
Carson: "Cheer down"? I wonder who that could have been?
Gaynore: He plays the trumpet on your show!
Carson: Don't you ever get depressed?
Gaynor: Depressed? Oh, my god. I'm a basket case sometimes.
Carson: But you always seem "hi!"
Gaynor: Oh, I wouldn't bring it to you. No, the only people I really show that side of me are my very, very, very close friends. Like, my husband takes a lot of it.
Carson: Jack?
Gaynor: Oh, does he take a lot of it. Because I have Hungarian days where, you know, the fiddle is going like you can't believe it.
Carson: Not only are you married, but he's also your manager so
Gaynor: He gets it all! He really does
Carson: So if you have a performance, you're up. And if it doesn't go the way you think you also...
Gaynor: You know, he will say it, and he has a perfect right to, "Why is it when you're with other people you're always so kind of hipsy pipsy gypsy, so full of this and that, then when everybody goes home, you go [she slumps back into chair] ahhhh" I said, "Well, you know, I don't like to bring other people down." I mean, if I'm not feeling too hot, it's not their fault.
Carson: Go out and perform
A comment on youtube noticed that Johnny seemed a bit downbeat during this interview:
One possible cause for Carson's downcast demeanor is he tried, presumably an expensive, gag earlier in the show that didn't go off. He had bussed into his studio audience the entire town of Essex, California who were not able to receive a broadcast television signal. He possibly thought he'd awe them with the delights of the big city, but they all seemed rather nonplussed and didn't appear at all interested in joining his crusade to expand NBC's broadcast signal. Carson's line of questioning to Gaynor about becoming depressed after a performance that doesn't hit it off with an audience seems to be an informal group therapy session.
#JohnnyCarson's gag in trying to enlist the inhabitants of a small town to expand #NBC's broadcast signal 📺 backfires when they basically describe TV as a #WeaponOfMassDistraction https://t.co/HGAvStkxkE pic.twitter.com/0X3zHuPUKg— 🎼AdagioForStrings🎻 (@adagioforstring) March 24, 2018
Carson; What is the consensus generally on television in Essex [ California ]? You're one of the few communities, according to the paper, there about a million people around the United States who are in a similar situation, they don't get [television broadcast] reception. Do you miss it? Do you want it? Or, couldn't you care less?
Female Guest: We have a pro and a con. I don't miss it.
Carson: You don't miss it?
Female Guest: No.
Male Guest: Well, I do
Female Guest: But he does.
[ Audience laughs]
Male Guest: I miss "The Johnny Carson Show"!
[ Audience "oh.."]
Carson: Well, that's nice of you to say.
Carson [speaking to female guest]: You don't miss it all? How about the children in town? You know a lot of people use television as a baby sitter. They plop the children down there and they watch it.
Female Guest: That's why it's nice not to have television. You become baby sitters of your own children. You talk to them. I made this statement a little while ago, that when your husband's mad at you, you find out about it the same day. When you have television, some times it's a couple of weeks before it gets back to you.
[ Audience laughs]
Carson: You've got a point, there. I suppose the youngsters, they have to make their own recreation. They have to go out and find things to do. You have youngsters out there?
Male Guest: Oh, yeah. They hike and of course, they entertain themselves. The younger ones, six, seven and eight they go out and play together. Make cars out of blocks and tin cans, you know
Carson: Back to the basics
Male Guest: Yeah, they just create their own recreation, really.
Female Guest: They use their imagination which is something people with television do not.
Carson: You're absolutely right. OK, we're going to come back and talk some more. We have to do a few commercials here. You know we have to do this once and a while..to pay for the bus trip! [Audience laughs] This message from Heinz Ketchup - nothing else is quite the same.
Johnny Carson was paid by his corporate sponsors to pronounce the word "ketchup" 🍅 pic.twitter.com/XuFHylYSVt— 🎼AdagioForStrings🎻 (@adagioforstring) March 24, 2018
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