Sunday, October 16, 2016

#USArmy Ranger Kris Paronto 3/3 #FactCheckHillary on her #HillaryLies on #Benghazi #13Hours

After four years, we still don't really know why the USA ambassador to Libya was at an unsecure location on the anniversary of the September 11 terrorist attacks

Kris Paronto:13 Hours: What Really Happened in Benghazi (Part 3) (May 25, 2016)

Narrator: In the battle of Benghazi, six brave Americans became heroes after holding off enemy attackers for thirteen grueling hours.  It was the ultimate test of courage and faith.  This inspiring real-life story, today, on "Jewish Voice" with Jonathan Bernis.

Jonathan:  Shalom and welcome to "Jewish Voice" where we help you to discover the Jewish roots of your Christian faith.  I'm Jonathan Bernis.   I'm sure that many of you saw the movie "13 Hours" It's a gripping, true story of the events of September 11. 2012 when our American Embassy [ consulate ] was attacked by terrorists, killing our ambassador, Chris Stevens.    Six of our security officers fought against all odds to protect and save lives.  They became true, American heroes.  What really happened that night, and why is one man speaking out? Please welcome an American hero, Kris Tonto Paronto.

Audience claps

Jonathan:  Thanks for being back with us, Kris.  It's a joy to have you this week.

Kris: Thank you

Jonathan:  And I've really been looking forward to this week.  We thank you [turning to audience] and I want to thank every veteran that has put their life on the line for America.  We   appreciate you so much and we just want to say, "God bless you - we love you - and we salute you!"

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 Jonathan: You know, Kris, I think that so many take for granted and there's a certain group that I'm not going to mention [ Democrats - leftists - reprobates ] that take what you guys do for granted.  And you're really putting your life on the line - the line out there - for our country.

Kris:  Yes, sir

Jonathan: Why, you said "enough is enough" at some point because of the lies that were being spread about this whole thing.  Why have you just given up everything to tell our country what really happened? what was the breaking line?

Kris:  Well, the breaking line was that non-disclosure that we were supposed to sign during the memorial ceremony for Ty [ Tyrone 'Rone' Woods ] and Glen [ Glen 'Bub' Doherty ]. It was about eight months or so after the attack.   Now, up to that point, we didn't exist in some aspects in some of the views of some of the people out there.  Also this story because it was being misconstrued, and really the guys on the team weren't being honored as they should be.  And then Ty and Glen, they gave their lives for to protect Americans lives - to protect others.  And I really felt they weren't being honored, as well. We all did, the team did.  It just gets to a point where you can only push SEALs Marines and Rangers so far.  I know we're supposed to turn the other cheek.  And it just got to the point where this is completely disrespectful - this is dishonorable - the families aren't being treated correctly.  The families are being lied to.

Jonathan:  And being called liars

Kris:  And being called liars, as well.  Still, till this day.  Still, Hillary Clinton has called the family members liars.

Kris:  Sheryl, and Katie [Kate Quigley, the sister of Glen Doherty ] and Pat Smith liars.

Kris:  And that really bothers me, immensely because I've seen how it's effected the family members.  I've seen how it's effected Pat Smith - mentally and emotionally.      And to do that in a large scale media basis and have people actually believe her [ Hillary ] when they haven't lost their family members to war, to terrorism.  It really makes me angry.  Makes me want to fight a little bit more.

Jonathan:  I think the whole audience and many people who are watching feel angry, too

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Jonathan: And, as I've been saying all week, we have to channel that anger in a constructive way to bring change.  It's not just yelling and screaming, we actually have to do something to bring change.

Kris:  Yes

Jonathan:  And we have the power to bring change - we have the power of prayer - we have the power of the Gospel.  God has called us to be salt and light.  And you've really been a great inspiration for us.  Kris, thank you.

Kris:  Well, I appreciate that.  I don't know if I'm that much.  But I appreciate the kind sentiments.

Jonathan:  You are, indeed.  I might be going a little too far here, if I do, just stop me.  But, this was not an angry mob, by chance.

Kris:  No

Jonathan: This was orchestrated

Kris:  Yes

Jonathan:  And there's more behind the scenes here.  Ambassador Stevens was a much higher level ambassador than most people are aware of.  They downplayed that.

Kris:  And they shouldn't.  There are different levels of ambassadorship.  I tell you how I know that is because I was the detail leader for high-level ambassadors when I was with the State Department.  Before when I was with the Agency [ CIA ] I did protect Ambassador Zalmay Mamozy Khalilzad  - I did protect Ambassador James F. Jeffrey  the Deputy Chief of Mission of Iraq and the ambassador to Iraq.  And to put in perspective of what Ambassador Stevens, which rated that level, like a vice president or a three star general if you want to get into comparisons.  He had six security guards over there [ as the State Department annex] Scott [ DS Scott Wickland ] , Alec, Dave [ DS Dave Ubben ] and then two of the guys from Tripoli.  They had about twelve years of military experience in between them.  When I was protecting the ambassadors to Iraq Mr. Khalilzad and Mr. Jeffrey, I had sixty Black Water operators - I had two little bird helicopters - I had a company of infantry soldiers out of Minnesota and three armored personnel carriers.

Jonathan:  So these are high-level ambassador that was doing more than meets the eye

Kris:  He was doing more than meets the eye

Jonathan:  And there are a lot of secrets here that are being swept under the carpet

Kris:  Yes

Jonathan:   And there's a timing here - certain people - high level people left the scene before the attack.

Kris:  Yes

Jonathan:  I know some of these things.  I mean this is, again, we're going to finish this show and I'm going to really drill down on you.

Kris laughs

Jonathan:  So there's much more here than meets the eye.  But this is not a band of angry people.  This is planned, this is orchestrated, this is Islamic terrorists planning an attack against Americans.

Kris: Yep.  And that's exactly what it was. They are very good, Islamic terrorists, they have learned.  They're not  ignorant people when it comes to fighting.  They've been fighting forever.  From the Mujahudeen when the Russians were in Afghanistan - and, there were foreign fighters there, I saw them.  I know they were there part of that attack.  And they are very good at blending and surprising and hitting hard quickly because they know they're not going to be able to sustain because when we come into - our tactics can overcome - and our weapon systems - and our night vision will be able to counter attack

Jonathan: But our policies played into their hands.  There was  request, repeated request, for more security.

Kris:  Definitely.

Jonathan: And were just ignored

Kris:  Yes, completely.  It was denied continuously and by the [ Hillary Clinton ] State Department.  Those three levels that I know of leadership there based off of my experience with the State Department and also just asking guys on the ground - you had Hillary Clinton - you had Patrick Kennedy - and Charlene Lamb.  And to me those three people there are responsible for what took place and the deaths - and the terrorists of course - but the deaths and the attack.

Jonathan:  Kris, one of the things I that I'm committed to do through this program is to speak the truth in love and the reality is that we face Islamic terrorists and this is being ignored or swept to the side in our current administration  but we face an army of jihadists that are committed to our destruction.  It's not just because we support Israel - it's because they're committed to the death of the infidel.

Kris:  Yes

Jonathan:  The destruction   of the infidel.  And this isn't going to go away, is it?

Kris:  No, it doesn't.  You can't reason, you can't pay, there's no way to reason with it.  I'm glad you're able to say "Islamic terrorism" here.  The administration, for some reason, can't say it.

Jonathan: Without stuttering, by the way "Islamic terrorists"

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Jonathan:  And a religious system that really if you look at the religious system it  is a militant religion.

Kris:  Shariah law is a very discriminatory - gender biased - religion - it is. It's funny.  We can do a whole other show on that.  It's funny to me that American people don't - especially the ones that have called us liars - don't believe that it is a serious threat and that they want  - I'm not going to sugar coat it - they want to kill you.

Audience: Oh, yeah

Kris: And you cannot pay for that.  You cannot say "Well, you know, you know, I believe with what you're thinking." Well, that's fine - here's an orange jump suit, let's put you on TV and do bad things to you.

Jonathan:  And Kris - appeasement doesn't work

Kris: No

Jonathan: I mean, that's the honest truth and we have - there's too much appeasement.  The world is saying, we will appease.  No there's a lot of good Muslims.

Kris: And I've fought along side of them. I have.  There are good Muslims.  Kurdistan is a perfect example of a Muslim country - I shouldn't - it, honestly, should be its own country.  We should let go and let it get off of Iraq and make Kurdistan.

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Kris:  Because there is a Christian community there and they work and they play and do everything together and I worked there for three years. And President [ Masoud ] Barzani  and [ Jalal ] Talabani they don't put up with terrorism either in those countries.  In fact, they're stronger against it than I think we are.

Jonathan:  I think we have to begin by identifying the problem.  This is Islamic terrorism.  This isn't Jews or Christians strapping bombs on themselves  and blowing up people.  And this is the dilemma Israel faces.  They can't give up their security and trusting a hollow peace.

Kris: Nope

Jonathan:  When you have people on the other side of the table that are absolutely committed to your destruction.   And that's what we're talking about.  That's what this whole thing is about. People that want to destroy America and the whole West - they want t wipe us out.

Kris:  The ironic thing  of what took place that night is Ambassador Chris Stevens and whether ironic is the right word - I think it is - is that they killed an ambassador that was dedicated to loving Islam.  Dedicated to the Muslim people there and dedicated to helping get Libya on its feet.  They killed on of their biggest allies - one of their biggest Christian allies to that country there.   And that just shows that if anything that terrorism doesn't care who it is.  You can be friends with the Muslims - Ambassador Stevens loved Libyans - and he was a good man - a very good man. He thought he was doing   the right thing.  I thought he was doing the right thing, too.  And they killed him, just because.

Jonathan:  He have to hear the truth, folks.    We've got to take a quick break.  We have much more with Kris Paronto still ahead.  And when we come back, we're going to talk about specifically what happened in those thirteen hours.  It's a gripping story.  It's a story of faith and courage....


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Jonathan: Welcome back.  Our guest is a true American hero.  Kris Tonto Paronto, many of you have seen the movie.  I don't know how many of you have read the book, "13 Hours", but this is riveting.  It's a story of courage, Kris, and, putting your life on the line.  John 15:13 is on your website.  It's really your life first, isn't it?

Kris:  It is. It's actually on my wall, downstairs in my little man cave in my house before - way before Benghazi even happened - years before.  The reason I think it became - I came out more outwardly and people recognize it was because of media.  On Fox News we did our first interview - where myself, John 'Tig' Tiegen and Mark 'Oz' Geist came out saying this is us - this is what we did - and I have that verse on my wall.

Jonathan:  "Greater love hath no man than this..."

Kris:  "...than a man lay down his life for his friend."  And that's - I think the military should pull that in as one of the soldier's creed now.

Jonathan:  Absolutely

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Jonathan:  And you guys live that out. And, Kris, this is the essence of the Gospel, friends.  That a man, actually, God, Himself, gave his life.  The only begotten Son of God, laid down his life - He who knew no sin becoming sin for us. - that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.  And then our relationship with God's salvation is all about putting our faith in the one that laid down his life - is the only name given under heaven by which we must be saved.

Kris, you've lived this out.  You and your friends made a decision after being told  - by the way - this is a sticking point - that I know is hard to hear again and again.  But  you were told "Don't go -  Stand down" whatever the wording was - you were ordered not to enter into this fight.  And then you were told - that people proclaimed that you were liars.  Politicians say you're lying

Kris:  Yeah, people still are and I think Geraldo [ Rivera ] still calling me a liar.  I know he was there with me in the back of my truck that night so he knows the heck what was going on.  So, it's still going on to this day.  And that's OK.  You know what ...

Jonathan: An expert who wasn't there

Kris:  Of course.  We've had plenty of experts that weren't there that tell us what happened to us that night because it must have been posted on facebook.  But, you know, it gets hard to hear - but it also gives us resolve. You know, fine.  We are fighters.  That's what guys like myself are - that's what Navy SEALs, Rangers, Marines, Law Enforcement Officers, Fire Fighters - we are fighters.  And if we're pushed and we're called names or we're pushed into a corner - we're going to fight back and that's even with words.

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Jonathan: And we are so grateful.  Many of you who are watching are veterans.  You've served in Afghanistan or Iraq, you're a police officer we applaud you, we love you, we bless you

Audience: Yeah

Jonathan: We thank God for you - we really do - we stand with you

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Jonathan:  Kris, here's the thing I want you to bring out.  You guys, terrible health plan. You all have families, and by this time you were watching - you heard this, you saw this.  You knew that this was - you were putting your life on the line.

Kris:  And it was a terrorist attack on the consulate, yes, sir

Jonathan:  And you may die - And you decided against orders to go.  Talk about that moment where you decided - and it was universal - a collective decision - unanimous "We're going" Talk about that

Kris:  It's, I remember vividly - and I do speak about this when I do my speaking events whether it's leadership - or Christianity - or God in combat - or just about that night.  I remember Ty, Ty Woods, and Ty was a big guy. Ty, if you've seen the movie,  James Badge Dale, who plays Ty got big, monstrous, muscular, because Ty was a muscular - but most SEALs are - they're going to go to the movies, any way and do Hollywood, so they get big.

Audience laughs

Kris: But Ty was abnormally large and he put his arm out the car door when we got the call from Alec Henderson saying "GRS - If you don't get here, we're all going to f-ing die!" And he went like this [ Kris makes a thumb up sign ] I just saw that big arm come out of the car door and I'm like "Yes, let's go! It's time"

Jonathan: You've got to do what you've got to do at this point

Kris:  Yes, and to me and to the rest of the guys that was a unifying moment saying we're in this together - let's go take care of business.

Jonathan:  Do you have to kind of grit your teeth and be courageous, or are already everything's pumping?  You talk about clarity, there's no fog in the midst of battle.

Kris:  There is - and- luckily again - God's blessing - luckily for us - all of us were in our forties - all of us have been deploying for ten years.  We'd all been through crisis situations whether it's combat or whatever you want to call it.  So, at that point in time, we recognized what was in store for us and what the possibilities were - possibilities of us dying or living or what we're going to get into. So it really wasn't really gritting your teeth - it was time to go to work. Let's go. And like I said, because the team was so close, and because we all knew each of us knew that each of us had each other's backs - we had a lot of faith.  That it wasn't a hard decision to go out - and it was actually like going and starting a football game.  You got those jitterbugs - you got those butterflies. You turn that fight or flight response into the fight response and it's game time - we're on the football - let's go play.

Jonathan: Now, you had this peace, right, that you knew that if you were hit and died - the Lord - you were in the Lord's presence.

Kris:  I knew He'd take care of me and He'd take care of my family and it was fine.  You can't go over in these areas and can't get into combat or join - you can't be in area where you might die - protecting or fighting for American lives or fighting for our freedom - which a lot of people over here in the states don't realize that's what we're doing overseas - and think you're going to die.  Because if you get that little bit of doubt in your head - your chances of dying have increased exponentially.  You can't do it.  So you have to keep - and that's where the good team comes in account because they give each other confidence because we know that he's not going to let me down and I'm not going to let him down.

Jonathan: Yeah, and the surety that God had your back in all this.  So talk - take us to the scene now - take us to the consulate and it's a disaster - there's flames - enemies all around - bullets are flying past you.  Now, you actually love it.

Kris: Yeah. There was so much confusion because in these countries - and people that have lived - or fought in the Middle East or North Africa - I equate it to being in Nebraska and having the tornado sirens go off and people don't go run and hide - they come out to see where the tornado is - they don't take cover.  Well, it's the same with these areas when combat goes on.  The local Libyans - whether the be terrorists or not - they don't go take cover - they come out to find what's going on. So the consulate was in complete chaos because there were just people everywhere.  We had no idea.

Jonathan: You had no idea who the tourist or observers were and who the combatants were.

Kris: And Michael Bay did a great job showing that confusion in the movie.  We had no idea.  So that was what the difficulty of it so when the RPG [ rocket propelled grenade ] first one hit I saw a guy run by me and his hand was missing - I figured he tried to throw a grenade at us.  And I didn't really pay him any mind - thought well, "Serves you right - karma" Don't throw a grenade at us, anymore.  But then when the second one hit - I knew it was RPG and the bullets started flying - and you just feel - again I equate it to being in a golden cocoon is a perfect example.

Jonathan:  Did you know at some point, even though there are these all of these enemy fire and it's chaos - did you know at some point - "I'm going to make it through this"?  You were in a tractor beam or a

Kris:   I did another thing - "I'm going to get out of this alive" - You don't think that.  You're just fighting. You're in that moment.  You're not thinking "Oh, I hope gosh I hope I can get out of this alive" You just know that God's got you - that's where you're supposed to be


Kris sounds a little bit like St. Teresa of Avila


Kris: And you just continue to do what comes up next - the next minute, you do whatever is put in front of you the next minute.  And it just continually goes like that until that plane comes thirteen hours later and I'm still - no Americans because it was a Libyan plane.  But I accept, you know  - out of my head when I saw that - I mean I thought "God does have a sense of humor!"

Jonathan:  Kris, we thank God for you

Kris:  Thank you, sir

Jonathan:  Not only your courage but your great testimony.

Kris:  Thank you, sir

Jonathan:  Your faith in a living God and keep up the great work! [ Jonathan shakes Kris' hand]

Audience claps

Jonathan:  You're really making a difference.  We're offering as a gift this week a hardcover edition, hand signed by Kris.  And this is our way of saying "thank you" of sowing into your life as you sow into our ministry to help people that don't even have clean water ...

Saturday, October 15, 2016

#BananaRepublic ๐ŸŒ vs Constitutional Republic ๐Ÿ“œ #Debates2016

The left has expressed fake moral outrage that citizens in a representative republic would expect all laws to be applied equally to everyone, including Democrat Party politicians:

Dana Loesch  responds to Leftists latest fake outrage in the first hour on her Tuesday October 11 Show:

If embed player doesn't  work, here's player embedded in tweet:

If that player doesn't work, scroll down on this websiste to Tuesday, October 11 - Hour 1


Dana: This whole situation that this is a Banana Republic - all of the people who are freaking out over this. Trump wasn't talking about jailing her because she is his political opponent.  He was talking about her possibly facing jail time because, and I'm going to say this so slowly because I understand we have some transcription going on for the hackneyed progressive websites [ I resemble that remark - excluding leftist part] - [ slowly ] Hesaidthis because she ๐Ÿ‘broke ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘law๐Ÿ‘. Right? hmm? Do you need me to repeat this for the rest of the class?  She broke a law!

Dana: That's LAWS - plural! That's why.  And, [ Trump ]  used the wrong verb because he doesn't understand how the process works. He can't nominate a special prosecutor, he can't appoint, rather, a special prosecutor. He CAN nominate one, he can't appoint.  But the core logic  remains that a special prosecutor would have to handle this particular case.  Why? Because she brokesees the lawsees! That's why! How many different ways do we have to put this? [ Producer ]  Kane knows.  Other people have gone to jail for much less!

Dana:  "But that's a banana republic!" cried the [leftist 'progressive' ] people, who defended Hillary Clinton for jailing a videographer and blaming him for Benghazi!

Dana: "But that's a banana republic!" they said when she threw him in jail over a weak explanation that he violated a parole over which the terms were sealed so no one can actually know whether he violated something or not

Dana: "But, but that sounds like a dictatorship" said the people who wanted jail bakers who don't make a cake.

Dana: "But, but that's the stuff that happens in a dictatorial banana republic!"  said the people who wanted to jail nuns for not offering contraception

Dana: You see? I can keep doing this.  Do you want me to keep going? OK.  "But, but, but that's just just like what happens in a banana republic!" say the people who defended midnight John Doe raids on innocent Wisconsins. Yeah

Dana: I can go on. "But, but, but that's what dictators say!" say all of the people who defended the weaponization of the IRS to go after individuals who disagree strictly on policy with the administration.

Dana: "But, but, but that's just what happens in banana republics!" cry all of the people who have no problem with weaponizing various bureaucratic agencies of the government to after people like Catherine Engelbrecht of True The Vote for simply wanting to uphold voter integrity?

Dana: Tell me all about those banana republics! For real! Tell me all about them! "But that what happens - what dictators do!" say the people who wanted to put Rick Perry in jail because he acted within the constitutional bounds of Texas law when he determined that he wasn't going to grant any more money to a department that was run by an out and out drunk attorney who had been arrested for DUI and had been in trouble with alcohol repeatedly?

Dana: Yeah, I mean, that's you know.   Tell me all about the dictators and the banana republics.  It's kind of hard to take these individuals seriously when these are the individuals who actually wanted to enact banana republic rules.  Tell me all about those banana republics, people who defend error-redden no fly lists that have zero judicial oversight.  But we have to put deny people thousands of which who are on these lists erroneously and have no legal recourse to be able to defend themselves or to get off the list - we have to strip them of second amendment rights!

Dana:  But we don't live in a banana republic, but saying that you would put Hillary Clinton - that you would prosecute her for breaking the law - that's a banana republic! Do these people know the hell that word means? It's not a banana republic to prosecute someone who has broken the law of the land. Good night! Where are these people getting their political arguments? From the jerk store?

Dana:  I kid, I kid. I just wanted to have a George Costanza moment [ laughs] Ugh! Tell me all about dictatorships when you want to jail people who do not believe in man made global warming

Dana: Tell me all about it!  What was that about a banana republic?  I couldn't hear you over the choking hypocrisy! What? I'm sorry, what? My gosh! Those things that doesn't mean what you think it means! Oh, you know what? Here's another, here's another - tell me all about - literally got tied up by a cord - literally, just like right now  - tell me all about the banana republics and how you think that prosecuting someone for breaking the law is just like a banana republic when you  defend the administration that gave guns to El Chapo and other drug cartels and then our Democrat leaders turned around and tried to use the murders that resulted from that action as a way to compromise and further restrict law abiding Americans' ability to exercise their Second Amendment rights!  What? Banana Republic - what?

Dana:  Just saying.  See banana republics are great when they're the ones running them.  That's not even a banana republic, though.  Here's just a really simple, it's so simple, it's so simple a caveman could do it, Kane, it really is.  Here's the gist of it.  Ready for this?

๐Ÿ‘Don't ๐Ÿ‘Break ๐Ÿ‘The ๐Ÿ‘Law!!๐Ÿ‘

I'll even say it in Pig Latin:

๐Ÿ– Ontday ๐Ÿ– Reakbay๐Ÿท  Ethay ๐Ÿท Awlay!!!!๐Ÿฝ


Kane: Seems simple to me!

Dana: Look! It was all bilingual and everything!

Dontsee Breaksee the Lawsee!!!

That's for all the Dilly Bar heads - pundits on TV who keep going "derp derp derp" Shut up! That is not! It's not! "Bake me a cake or go to jail!" "How dare you prosecute her for breaking a law that was just completely written out on paper in multiple places and she knew about it because she swore an oath to uphold it?"

Dana: For crying out loud! It's so insane! These are the people that are mad because you would prosecute, you would investigate Hillary Clinton? She broke the law! She even admits it!

Dana: But then she tries to act like it's no big deal: "I was wrong, sorry! Sorry, I was wrong!"  And, look what all happened as a result.  I don't think anybody died because somebody didn't bake a cake for somebody.  I don't think anybody died cause some nuns didn't give some people some contraception.  For crying out loud! This is the stuff we're dealing with! It's, this is what, this is why people mock these folks [leftists].  Those are symptoms of a banana republic, for lack of a better way to put it.  Prosecuting someone who legitimately broke the law and endangered the lives of Americans and even got Americans killed?

Dana: No, prosecuting that, that's actually following the Constitution of the United States.  These people can't tell a banana republic from a republic! [ I would've said: "they can't tell a banana republic from a banana split - wacka! wacka!"] Good heavens! [ From "The Princess Bride"]

Dana: That's right! That's not what it means, dudes! You keep using that word "banana republic", but that's not what it means!

I'm surprised that Dana didn't point out Obama admin selective enforcement of a law against Republican donor, Gibson Guitar, whilst allowing Democrat donor, Martin Guitar, to slide.

Thursday, October 13, 2016

#USArmy Ranger Kris Paronto 2/3 #FactCheckHillary on her #HillaryLies on #Benghazi #13Hours

There's the allegation that Hillary's State Department was involved in illegal gun running in Libya to terrorists in Syria which is what ultimately lead to the murder of the first US Ambassador since the Democrat Carter administration.

Former US Army ranger, Kris Paronto, doesn't confirm or deny that the US government was allegedly engages in gun running.  He provides his eye witness, on the ground account of what happened when Islamic supremacist terrorists murdered our US ambassador to Libya on the anniversary of September 11.

Kris Paronto:13 Hours: What Really Happened in Benghazi (Part 2) on the "Jewish Voice" (May 24, 2016)

Narrator:  The Battle of Benghazi featured extraordinary acts of courage and heroism.  For 13 hours, six American heroes waged a fierce firefight to hold off enemy attackers against all odds. And now one of them is giving credit to God for helping him survive.  Today on "Jewish Voice" with Jonathan Bernis.

Jonathan:  Shalom and welcome to "Jewish Voice" where we help you to discover the Jewish roots of your Christian faith.  I'm Jonathan Bernis.   On September 11, 2012 the American [consulate] and a CIA compound nearby in Benghazi, Libya were overrun by terrorists.  Six men displayed unbelievable courage against all odds to protect those buildings and emerged as true American heroes.  One of them is here today with us to share what really happened that fateful night and he credits God with getting him through this.  Please welcome Kris "Tanto" Paronto.  Hey, Kris, welcome back.  Glad to have you back with us.  I am awestruck by the story of those 13 hours and the bravery, the courage that you guys displayed which was "we're not   going to leave anyone behind - and we're going to lay our life on the line to serve these guys"  Is that just the mentality of all you guys?

Kris:  Definitely.   I think it generates first when you're getting into the military.  When you first sign up for the Army, Navy, Marine Corps, the Air Force.  And then when you go into the special ops community it's reinforced continually.  Your sacrificing yourself for your teammate.  Your teammate comes first.  People that can't protect themselves, they come first.  And you're putting your life on the line for  them.  And God is in the military, at least it was when I was in. Quite a bit.

Audience claps

Kris:  Every Sunday in your basic training you go to church because when the bullets start flying...

Jonathan:  Is it the culture or the reality your life might be required of us tomorrow.

Kris:  I think it's real.  I think it's a little bit of both.  At least when I was in.  I can't speak nowadays within the military.

Jonathan:  You were a Ranger

Kris:  I was an Army ranger with the 75th Ranger Regiment in the 2nd Battalion, Fort Lewis.  For all you Rangers out there, 2nd Battalion was the best unit, best battalion!

Audience laughs

Kris:  1st bat 3rd bat are like anyway...but I think it's both it really is a little bit of both.  And it's also how you're raised.  We were all contractors at that time, we were all in our forties, so we're going back to the days when  that was "Yes, sir. No, ma'am." Opening car doors.

Jonathan: I remember those days.

Kris:  Raised with more class than I think most people have, the youngsters have nowadays.  So it starts when your young, but it is just continually reinforced as you move up in the community.  Especially when you get into special ops.  And when you get to be a contractor, it's there, the seeds have already been planted and now they're sprouted  and you're there to sacrifice yourself.  You're there to protect was our job.

Jonathan:  Well you certainly fulfilled your job with great courage and honor we honor you

Kris: Thanks

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Jonathan:  And all those that are watching that are veterans that have put your life on the line for the country we salute you and we bless you and we thank you so much.

Kris: Definitely

Jonathan:  Kris, talk about  that whole day.  Actually, talk about the time leading up to it because there were repeated requests from the Ambassador, himself, for more security.  There was a sense something was going to happen and we need more help.

Kris:  Chris Stevens, Ambassador Stevens was a great man.  He was a patriot.  And he believed in the Libyan people.  He was an immense human being.  But getting into the security aspect of it.  The consulate had been attacked twice before.  And also the British Ambassador had been attacked, as well. Severely, actually.  Which the GRS [Global Response Staff] element in Benghazi at the time responded to that attack.  We tried to respond to the two IED attacks and we were told to not go to those, as well.  Which, luckily, nothing happened. There was no follow on. So, the ambassador had put in multiple requests for more security.  The State Department officers on the compound, DS Scott Wickland, DS Alec Henderson and DS Dave Ubben were putting in requests for more guns, bigger guns.  Cause I remember telling them that if they ever got attacked with only rifles they were going to - and I used an expletive - but they're all going to * bleeping * die.

Jonathan:  Did they feel like their lives were in danger?

Kris:  I do.  They knew they were undermanned.  Cause you could just tell in their eyes that they didn't have enough security there. Their diplomatic security officers.  They're trained, as well.  They know what  they need.  They're not going to ask for more than what they need and they were continually asking for six months and it just fell on deaf ears.

Jonathan:  What do you think was the over arching attitude in the State Department and the administration? Let's not ruffle feathers?

Kris:  I think that's it.  That's one of the problems.  Locals solve local problems.  We're in their country - they need to provide security for us. We don't want to give an outward appearance of being too aggressive.  We don't want to be the bullies. That's what our State Department views are now more than ever



Jonathan:  We know this is a country loaded with Muslim radicals.  It's like we can't  face that reality can we? That we we're at war with Muslim jihadists.

Kris:  We're at war with Muslim terrorists with the Islamists.  I fought alongside Muslims.  There is a difference.  I have guys that I can trust but you can't trust a terrorist.  You can't trust Islamists.  You cannot reason with them.  And they were all over Benghazi and Derna, down the road. And they knew that. And we had told them that because that was one of our jobs was too see who is in the country just so we know what bad guys were there.

Jonathan:  This is the same mentality that's trying to force Israel to a two state solution

Kris:  Yeah

Jonathan: Without the security concerns - without realizing you can't trust people that have an agenda - a stated lifetime agenda to push Israel into the sea.

Kris:  I don't live in Israel, but I do work with the IDF and I do have friends and I do support Israel, as well. I do very much  so that I do understand I have been in rocket attacks as well.  So I do understand what it's like to be on edge 24/7

Jonathan:  You've been in Libya, Yemen, you have a very clear idea.

Kris: Yeah, Baghdad, somewhat dangerous at time.  You know, Kabul isn't a place you should buy a summer home so is Kandahar.

Audience laughs

Kris:  You know it's they don't understand what the Israeli people have to live with every day.  You're at a beach and you might get hit by a rocket.

Audience: Yeah!

Kris:  They don't understand that.  And until it happens to them - they still won't understand.  They won't listen.  Our leaders, nowadays.  It was exemplified in Benghazi that leadership that could have helped  - that could have provided more security - do NOT listen to the guys on the ground who are actually experiencing what's going on.  And that was where the problem was in Benghazi   and it's a perfect example of why we are not listening and supporting Israel as we need to.

Jonathan:   Why the cover up? Why the whole State Department and administration saying this was an angry mob as a result of some video and really calling friends, liars?

Kris:  That was tough to hear and see.  When I turned the TV on in Germany the next day and saw Susan Rice talking something about a video and a protest...honestly, I just turned it off.

Audience: yeah...

Kris:  And in my head I was just "typical - par for the course" I mean just me thinking like that is wrong because there obviously I already had known there was very little trust in the US government towards guys like us on the ground.  We're worried about going to jail if we shoot bad guy let alone dying

Audience: yeah..

Kris:   It's interesting you're over in harm's way defending American interests - defending Americans - and you don't have people watching your back at home.

Kris:  You know, it's uh -[ sighs ] - that's why I left and went to Yemen because I felt the government had turned on us.  I feel like a lot of the American people had turned on us.  It took me a long time to realize it now the government still doesn't have our back, completely because the family members are still being called liars - the family members of my teammates that died. But I do know there are certain politicians that are coming around and supporting us.  And I do know the American public is becoming more and more vocal and supportive of us.

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Jonathan:  Well that's true.  People are angry. And we have to channel that anger in a constructive way that brings change. I said that yesterday and of course I believe that we have the only message as followers of the living God that can really change lives.  The Gospel is the only thing that can cause a terrorist, a jihadist, to become a lover of God and a lover of people, lover of Israel. I have friends that were former terrorists.

Kris: I do to.


New York Times might disagree that only the Gospel can deprogram Islamic Supremacist terrorists.


Jonathan:  They love God now and they're transformed.

Kris:  Gosh, I don't know why I'm not remembering his name.  There's a gentleman in Omaha that was with the Muslim Brotherhood and now's a Christian.

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Kris:  He's a tremendous example of - and can give you example a lot better than I can - of what the mistakes were with Islamists and why it's great to be a Christian.

Jonathan: It is God's only peace plan, isn't there? The Gospel is the only solution we have.  So don't think "What can I do? I don't have anything"  You have a relationship with God.  You have prayer.  And you have the only answer for mankind.

We have to take a break in a minute. Just really quickly, John 15:13

Kris:  Yep. yep

Jonathan:  This is inspirational. You proclaim it - you  live it - what does John 15:13 say?

Kris:  Love is no greater than this than a man lay down his life for his friend. And my two teammates, Glenn Doherty and Tyrone Woods exemplified that by protecting - we saved 36 lives that night.  And they gave their lives completely for it - they both died.  So I think all guys overseas really live by that credo and it needs to be recognized.

Audience claps

Jonathan: Amen. Kris, you know, that is the essence - that is the foundation of our faith that God sent his Son to lay  down his life for us - he who knew no sin, became sin for us that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him.  Incredible that you're living that out.  God is calling us to live out that truth and to serve a dying world.

We have to take a break.  When we come back, we're going to talk about the specific events of what happened with Kris Paronto.




Jonathan:  If you're just joining us my guest is Kris Tonto Paronto who is an American hero.  And Kris. this is a riveting book about bravery

Zuckoff, M. (2014). 13 Hours: The Inside Account of What Really Happened in Benghazi. New York City, NY: Twelve, Hachette Book Group.

Jonathan: You guys thought you were going to die, right?

Kris: You never think you're going to die.  You accept the fact that if you do - you do.  What we thought was that we're going to be in a pretty good fire fight for quite a while.  What we didn't expect was no US assets coming  to help us.  That was a little bit of a shock.

Jonathan:  No you were told not - there's some controversy about this - we love controversy!

Kris:  There shouldn't be a controversy but there is

Jonathan:  You were told not to go

Kris: Not to go - three times

Jonathan:  You were told to "Stand down"

Kris: One time when specifically the words "stand down" were used once to John 'Tig' Tiegen.  We were told to "wait" twice. Now to me and  I testify to this, too.  That's semantics.  Bottom line is "wait" "stand down" "don't go" it's all the same to me because we're not allowed to go.   But if people in the DC or the media, especially the left wing media, want to get particular, the words "stand down" were used for us within 15 minutes after we were called from the State Department officer saying  they were under attack and they needed out assistance.

Jonathan:  And you're being told "don't go" "stand down" that's got to be horrible



Kris:  That is, especially when you can see the attack going on and you can hear our - cause we're friends with Scott,  Alec and Dave State Department officers - and they're saying "We need you! Where are you?" And you can hear the panic. And when they're starting to cuss "Where the f- are you?!" And we've given our words that we would go help.

Jonathan:  I can't even imagine that feeling - and then to be told that you're liars!

Kris: Oh, that was...I have to say that still bothers me and it always will - being called liars.  I'm sure within the media - even social media.  Haven't been called that to my face, yet.  I'm still waiting on that.  Maybe I can exact some...well I know we're on a Christian show....I might exact some frustration on the person that does that.

Audience laughs

Jonathan:  You've got to lay down you life here man, this Kris, was this a breakdown in communication or was this instructions from on high - I'm not talking about the Lord, you think this was a directive all the way from the top "don't go"?

Kris:  For us, it was from the CIA local leadership which was our chief of station, chief of base.  And this is where the confusion is.  There were two different "stand downs" or "waits".  One was ours, that we know for sure we're told to "stand down" because the words were used.  That was from the CIA leadership.  The other one was where the military was getting people to come: General Ham at DoD AFRICOM and they were - Special Forces team was getting ready to come to us.  They were prepositioning.  The 555th Fighter Wing their pilots were getting ready to come and they were told by the State Department [aka Hillary Clinton ] that they weren't needed. That's the question I can't answer there - cause I don't know what was going on.



Jonathan:  Either - and you said, I heard you speak recently - and you said a fly-over would've probably scattered the crowd.  Just a fly-over!

Kris:  A fly-over would've stopped the mortars that had come in.  They were so deathly afraid because what they saw with American airpower taking out Qaddafi that - and I'm telling you right now - people in the audience - having and F15 or F16 fly over you at 200 feet, that'll scare you.  It'll at least shake you up a bit and make you think twice about coming out of your holes.  And that was really all we needed but there were so many assets available within that vicinity.

Jonathan:  And you reached a point where you just said "we're going."

Kris:  The whole team did - and you know - it was beautiful.

Jonathan:  You just made a decision, "even if we...this is the end of our career - we're going"

Kris:  You know, it's not only that - what goes through our heads, too, is contractors in the fight for the United States help to protect diplomats - do not have very good insurance - we've got this thing - it's typical wordy insurance that doesn't cover anything.  In fact, Glen Doherty's family is still fighting them to get his death benefits.  So we realize that if we did leave - because we disobeyed orders - because we're not staying within our scope of duties - not only if we were hurt over at the consulate - we'd have no insurance to cover our injuries - but if we died over there - our families would not get their life insurance benefits.  So that was not only losing our jobs, but also, it would have effected our family members and if we were injured, like I said, we're on our own.  But that doesn't matter.

Jonathan:  This is the Gospel ringing in my ear - the words of Jesus "That they persecuted me, they'll persecute you" There's a price to pay.


John 15:20 "Remember what I told you: 'A servant is not greater than his master.' If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also.'"


Jonathan:  And laying down your life - there's a price to pay.  All this is so parallel.  But you made the decision together "We're going"

Kris:  And that's why God had that team there that night.  Myself, Ty [ Tyrone Woods ] , and Boon [ Dave Benton ] we're supposed to go home two weeks before the attack and we all extended and stayed together because that team - and I'm not saying we all were best friends - the team worked so well together.  And there's no doubt in my mind that God knew what was going to happen and said "you guys need to stay together"

Jonathan:  He sure did.

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Jonathan:  You went, you decided to go and you drove into an absolute mess.

Kris: It was just chaos I remember driving into it - and again - the media doesn't get you there. They don't tell you this. Only the people who've seen the movie, or read the book, or hear me speak - we had to stop 400 meters from the front gate  because we had lost the initiative.  There was heavy weapons protecting the front gate and saw Shariah and Al Qaida in the Maghreb were the two groups that attacked the consulate that night and they did what any good group would do - they blocked off the positions we could come into with a vehicle.  So we stopped  and there was a local militia there but there was only one guy that was actually fighting.  The rest of them - it looked like a bunch of cats where you throw fire crackers and the cats are jumping around.

Audience laughs

Kris:  It was mass chaos.  And I remember Boon looking at me as we were driving up going "We waited 25 minutes for this?" It was a statement more than a question but I understood it was ridiculous.  Yeah, then you get out of the car and it's the "snap". The bullets start whizzing - as a contractor, when the bullets start snapping by your head, you realize "They're shooting at us. OK, now we can go on the offensive and - that's what we did. And Tig - John 'Tig' Tiegen - fantastic job that night.  He pulls out a 40 mm grenade launcher and he starts shooting back at the heavy weapons down the road.  And myself and Boon start sneaking through back yards took us about another half hour to go 400 meters so ah...

Jonathan:  You got a smile  on your face when you talk about the bullets flying by and the popping.  You are a warrior.    You are just wired that way.

Kris:  Warrior or crazy I don't know - there's a fine line. We enjoy it.  In fact, that's why I deployed for so long. And even during breaks between my GRS contracts, I would go to Egypt and I'd get on a ship and ride across the coast to Somalia fighting pirates.  Sound like Captain Jack Sparrow [except - Jack Sparrow was a pirate...]

Jonathan: You're wired that way, but God is looking for warriors.  He's looking for people that will step out - that may be viewed by the world as crazy.  And He may be calling you [pointing to the audience] to do something that is absolutely insane - nobody understands you - and it is God! Go and do it! Walk out in faith!

Hey, uh, there's an expression "there's no atheists in fox holes" What does that mean to you?

Kris:  That means that when your life is flashing before your eyes - or your life as you know is in danger - you come to realize that there's a higher power out there.  If you're an atheist, you don't believe in an after life  until your life on this earth may be gone.  All of the sudden that after life is there!  It takes that crisis situation - that life-or-death feeling that hits you in the face - literally - to make you realize that there is a higher power there - there is somebody who is actually taking care of us and giving us our spirit and giving us the ability to live our daily lives in love.  Love and hate and have all those feelings.  Atheists, I think, is just the easy way out because you don't have to live [with any] responsibility. You don't have to live by the Bible.

Jonathan:  If there is a God, there is responsibility.  Kris, there's a beautiful verse in Scripture that says to be absent in the body is to be present in the Lord.  2 Corinthians 5:8



Jonathan:  In other words, the minute that your spirit's released with the death of the body [snaps fingers] you're present with the Lord.  And that's true for all.

[Looking to the audience] Maybe you haven't made that  commitment to the Lord and you don't know what's going to happen to you after you die, I do. And there's one name given under heaven by which we must be saved - Kris and I have come to believe in that one way - and his name is Jesus - Yeshua in Hebrew.

Audience claps

Jonathan:  It's an amazing, amazing book.  It's inspirational - it will give you courage.  It will give you hope to go on and it will just grip you.  "13 Hours" we want to sow this into you life ....